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		<title>Comment on What No One Wants to Hear About Benghazi &#8211; Article by Ron Paul by Jim Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 14:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron:

Until we learn that ALL Muslims are &quot;extremists&quot; we&#039;ll just keep bumbling along.  If you question this you need only to read the Koran.  It&#039;s all spelled out there quite clearly.

Jim Wright]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron:</p>
<p>Until we learn that ALL Muslims are &#8220;extremists&#8221; we&#8217;ll just keep bumbling along.  If you question this you need only to read the Koran.  It&#8217;s all spelled out there quite clearly.</p>
<p>Jim Wright</p>
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		<title>Comment on Join the Movement for Indefinite Life Extension: The Most Forward-Thinking Minds Are Not Alone &#8211; Video by G. Stolyarov II by Gennady Stolyarov II</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalargumentator.com/index/blog/2013/04/join-mile-video/#comment-1416</link>
		<dc:creator>Gennady Stolyarov II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 01:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Natural&quot; does not mean &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt;. Those who say that living longer is “unnatural” do not realize that any human technology – from growing crops to any medical care – is equally “unnatural”, or equally “natural” (both terms rather devoid of meaning except to give a mask of respectability to fuzzy praise or visceral condemnation).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Natural&#8221; does not mean <i>good</i>. Those who say that living longer is “unnatural” do not realize that any human technology – from growing crops to any medical care – is equally “unnatural”, or equally “natural” (both terms rather devoid of meaning except to give a mask of respectability to fuzzy praise or visceral condemnation).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Join the Movement for Indefinite Life Extension: The Most Forward-Thinking Minds Are Not Alone &#8211; Video by G. Stolyarov II by Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalargumentator.com/index/blog/2013/04/join-mile-video/#comment-1415</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 19:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t death natural?....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t death natural?&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Futile Temporary Totalitarianism in Boston &#8211; Article by G. Stolyarov II by Gennady Stolyarov II</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalargumentator.com/index/blog/2013/05/futile-temporary-totalitarianism/#comment-1413</link>
		<dc:creator>Gennady Stolyarov II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 04:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that the legal definition of a concept may differ from the generally held understanding. However, in a situation where the same entity (e.g., the federal government or the Obama administration) is dealing with the term in both a legal and a rhetorical fashion, it should treat the term consistently. Someone else (e.g., someone not affiliated with the Obama administration or who disagrees with any decision not to certify the bombing as terrorism) could consistently hold both the view that the bombing constitutes terrorism and that it should be certified by the federal government as such.

Incidentally, I also find that war is treated with a similar “doublethink” by the federal government. On the one hand, there has not been a declaration of war by Congress since World War II. On the other hand, the rhetoric that “we are at war” and must therefore “sacrifice” X, Y, or Z is ubiquitous. 

On terrorism, I think the origin of the term dates back further than Lenin, to the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution. The meaning of the term has certainly evolved since then, perhaps past the point where the original meaning could be said to be preserved to any great extent. The original types of terrorism were largely instigated by governments (e.g., the Jacobin Committee of Public Safety in France or the regimes of Lenin and Stalin in the USSR), though some organized revolutionary movements (e.g., the various militant “anarchists” who assassinated political leaders during the late 19th and early 20th centuries) could also be classified as terroristic. Today, the term’s meaning is (at best) approaching that of “mass crime targeting civilians and committed by someone who holds a non-mainstream ideology” – which is so broad as to be almost indistinguishable from “mass crime targeting civilians” (which would mean that school shootings or gang fights with substantial bystander casualties might eventually qualify). Worse yet, some are using “terrorism” to label anyone who leaks or disseminates “classified” US government information (e.g., Julian Assange and Bradley Manning) – including information which exposes atrocities committed by or on behalf of the US government. The best solution would be to retire the term altogether and instead refer to each criminal act by whatever its legal classification would otherwise be – and, certainly, existing law has an adequate vocabulary to meaningfully delineate among the possible criminal acts to which anyone could presently refer to as “terrorism”.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the legal definition of a concept may differ from the generally held understanding. However, in a situation where the same entity (e.g., the federal government or the Obama administration) is dealing with the term in both a legal and a rhetorical fashion, it should treat the term consistently. Someone else (e.g., someone not affiliated with the Obama administration or who disagrees with any decision not to certify the bombing as terrorism) could consistently hold both the view that the bombing constitutes terrorism and that it should be certified by the federal government as such.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I also find that war is treated with a similar “doublethink” by the federal government. On the one hand, there has not been a declaration of war by Congress since World War II. On the other hand, the rhetoric that “we are at war” and must therefore “sacrifice” X, Y, or Z is ubiquitous. </p>
<p>On terrorism, I think the origin of the term dates back further than Lenin, to the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution. The meaning of the term has certainly evolved since then, perhaps past the point where the original meaning could be said to be preserved to any great extent. The original types of terrorism were largely instigated by governments (e.g., the Jacobin Committee of Public Safety in France or the regimes of Lenin and Stalin in the USSR), though some organized revolutionary movements (e.g., the various militant “anarchists” who assassinated political leaders during the late 19th and early 20th centuries) could also be classified as terroristic. Today, the term’s meaning is (at best) approaching that of “mass crime targeting civilians and committed by someone who holds a non-mainstream ideology” – which is so broad as to be almost indistinguishable from “mass crime targeting civilians” (which would mean that school shootings or gang fights with substantial bystander casualties might eventually qualify). Worse yet, some are using “terrorism” to label anyone who leaks or disseminates “classified” US government information (e.g., Julian Assange and Bradley Manning) – including information which exposes atrocities committed by or on behalf of the US government. The best solution would be to retire the term altogether and instead refer to each criminal act by whatever its legal classification would otherwise be – and, certainly, existing law has an adequate vocabulary to meaningfully delineate among the possible criminal acts to which anyone could presently refer to as “terrorism”.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Futile Temporary Totalitarianism in Boston &#8211; Article by G. Stolyarov II by Charles N. Steele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles N. Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 11:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regardless of how the Tsarnaevs&#039; actions are labeled, they should not be used to infringe liberty.  That&#039;s not the issue.  And certainly the term &quot;terrorism&quot; is horribly abused today, but it has a long history and does refer to something real -- the use of force to instill terror and induce compliance in a population.  Lenin was the major developer and promoter of this.

The law of non-contradiction is a philosophical law refering to concepts.  But it is conceivable that the legal definition of a term for purposes of a contract might differ from the general definition; hence it is conceivable that the act might not be terrorism in a legal sense yet is so for other purposes.

Finally, it seems quite obvious that this was terrorist activity, regardless of whether the Tsarnaevs were part of a larger organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of how the Tsarnaevs&#8217; actions are labeled, they should not be used to infringe liberty.  That&#8217;s not the issue.  And certainly the term &#8220;terrorism&#8221; is horribly abused today, but it has a long history and does refer to something real &#8212; the use of force to instill terror and induce compliance in a population.  Lenin was the major developer and promoter of this.</p>
<p>The law of non-contradiction is a philosophical law refering to concepts.  But it is conceivable that the legal definition of a term for purposes of a contract might differ from the general definition; hence it is conceivable that the act might not be terrorism in a legal sense yet is so for other purposes.</p>
<p>Finally, it seems quite obvious that this was terrorist activity, regardless of whether the Tsarnaevs were part of a larger organization.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Futile Temporary Totalitarianism in Boston &#8211; Article by G. Stolyarov II by Gennady Stolyarov II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennady Stolyarov II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 03:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dr. Steele, I agree that the classification of events should be based on objective facts. Even with this premise in mind, it is not clear whether the Boston bombing is terrorism, or whether it is an isolated criminal act motivated by the idiosyncratic individual agendas of the Tsarnaev brothers and unconnected to any larger organization. Certainly, the Tsarnaev brothers were Chechen nationalists and Islamic fundamentalists, but their attack did not appear to have been instigated by wider terrorist networks. (Of course, that matter is presently being investigated, and I grant the possibility that a different conclusion may eventually be reached.) It is at least possible that their crime has more in common with the Sandy Hook shooting than with the destruction of the World Trade Center. 

My point regarding the terrorism certification was one of consistency. Whichever way this act is treated, the law of non-contradiction necessitates that it either is an act of terrorism or it is not; the federal government cannot it have it both ways. If there is a desire not to issue a terrorism certification for any reason (even if it is just to save the affected businesses money), then the rhetorical use of the “terrorism” threat to motivate liberty-infringing measures should also be discontinued. 

To consider a related issue, the consequences of any public hysteria about terrorism will be attempts (possibly successful ones) to limit essential individual liberties even further. Perhaps it is time to retire the term “terrorism” and to refer to these criminal bombings in a different manner, which is not so emotionally loaded and not so prone to causing knee-jerk authoritarian and totalitarian political reactions. Even though many grievous criminal acts occur throughout the US on a regular basis, no crime which does not bear the label of “terrorism” can drum up so much support for completely disproportionate and counterproductive political reactions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Steele, I agree that the classification of events should be based on objective facts. Even with this premise in mind, it is not clear whether the Boston bombing is terrorism, or whether it is an isolated criminal act motivated by the idiosyncratic individual agendas of the Tsarnaev brothers and unconnected to any larger organization. Certainly, the Tsarnaev brothers were Chechen nationalists and Islamic fundamentalists, but their attack did not appear to have been instigated by wider terrorist networks. (Of course, that matter is presently being investigated, and I grant the possibility that a different conclusion may eventually be reached.) It is at least possible that their crime has more in common with the Sandy Hook shooting than with the destruction of the World Trade Center. </p>
<p>My point regarding the terrorism certification was one of consistency. Whichever way this act is treated, the law of non-contradiction necessitates that it either is an act of terrorism or it is not; the federal government cannot it have it both ways. If there is a desire not to issue a terrorism certification for any reason (even if it is just to save the affected businesses money), then the rhetorical use of the “terrorism” threat to motivate liberty-infringing measures should also be discontinued. </p>
<p>To consider a related issue, the consequences of any public hysteria about terrorism will be attempts (possibly successful ones) to limit essential individual liberties even further. Perhaps it is time to retire the term “terrorism” and to refer to these criminal bombings in a different manner, which is not so emotionally loaded and not so prone to causing knee-jerk authoritarian and totalitarian political reactions. Even though many grievous criminal acts occur throughout the US on a regular basis, no crime which does not bear the label of “terrorism” can drum up so much support for completely disproportionate and counterproductive political reactions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Futile Temporary Totalitarianism in Boston &#8211; Article by G. Stolyarov II by Charles N. Steele</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalargumentator.com/index/blog/2013/05/futile-temporary-totalitarianism/#comment-1410</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles N. Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 14:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On reflection, I disagree with your observations concerning whether the Tsarnaevs&#039; actions should be declared terrorism.  In determining what an action should called, the criterion should be &quot;do the acts meet the definition or not?&quot;  The government must &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; decide how to classify an event based on after-the-fact criteria such as &quot;who will benefit?&quot;

An insurance contract is meaningless if after an event occurs the government can arbitrarily decide whether to declare the event an insured event just to favor one group over another.  And no, this can&#039;t reasonably be described as an attempt to &quot;avoid needless bureaucratic complication.&quot;  If it &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; an act of terrorism, then this is an attempt to get insurance to cover damages that were not in fact insured.  Why even bother with defining insured vs. non-insured perils and events if the definitions will be arbitrarily applied?

Also, even if the government refuses to call this terrorism so that insurers bear the burden, that would be no reason to then not treat this as terrorism for other purposes, especially that of pursuing the possibility of Chechen or Saudi involvement.  In fact, this would be extremely dangerous, not &quot;Orwellian.&quot;

Personally I think it obviously qualifies as terrorism (if it isn&#039;t, what &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; qualify?) but the more important point is that definitions be applied objectively, not on after the fact criteria such as &quot;what is best for the business community?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On reflection, I disagree with your observations concerning whether the Tsarnaevs&#8217; actions should be declared terrorism.  In determining what an action should called, the criterion should be &#8220;do the acts meet the definition or not?&#8221;  The government must <i>never</i> decide how to classify an event based on after-the-fact criteria such as &#8220;who will benefit?&#8221;</p>
<p>An insurance contract is meaningless if after an event occurs the government can arbitrarily decide whether to declare the event an insured event just to favor one group over another.  And no, this can&#8217;t reasonably be described as an attempt to &#8220;avoid needless bureaucratic complication.&#8221;  If it <i>was</i> an act of terrorism, then this is an attempt to get insurance to cover damages that were not in fact insured.  Why even bother with defining insured vs. non-insured perils and events if the definitions will be arbitrarily applied?</p>
<p>Also, even if the government refuses to call this terrorism so that insurers bear the burden, that would be no reason to then not treat this as terrorism for other purposes, especially that of pursuing the possibility of Chechen or Saudi involvement.  In fact, this would be extremely dangerous, not &#8220;Orwellian.&#8221;</p>
<p>Personally I think it obviously qualifies as terrorism (if it isn&#8217;t, what <i>would</i> qualify?) but the more important point is that definitions be applied objectively, not on after the fact criteria such as &#8220;what is best for the business community?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Federal Reserve Blows More Bubbles &#8211; Article by Ron Paul by Jim Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ron:

Is anyone listening?

Jim W.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron:</p>
<p>Is anyone listening?</p>
<p>Jim W.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Life Extension and Risk Aversion &#8211; Article by G. Stolyarov II by Gennady Stolyarov II</title>
		<link>http://www.rationalargumentator.com/index/blog/2013/04/life-extension-and-risk-aversion-article-by-g-stolyarov-ii/#comment-1398</link>
		<dc:creator>Gennady Stolyarov II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 05:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To SocraticGadfly:

Regarding your points #1, 2, and 3, suicide rates in the US, while they are indeed slightly higher than rates of automobile fatalities, have also been in modest decline since 1950. The following chart shows statistics for selected years between 1950 and 2005: 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779940.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779940.html&lt;/a&gt;. As another example, in Japan, absolute numbers of suicides have recently declined below 30,000 for the first time in 15 years: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.halojepang.com/todays-japan/6433-suicides&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.halojepang.com/todays-japan/6433-suicides&lt;/a&gt;

Thus, the beneficent trend of greater self-preservation I described can be said to apply even to reduce the prevalence of people choosing to take their own lives. 

Regarding your point #4, my video “Eliminating Death – Part 10 – The Immortal Wealthy Elite Argument” – &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfPUtUha_ck&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfPUtUha_ck&lt;/a&gt;- addresses part of your concern. My remaining response is that, while moral advancement is not guaranteed by longer lifespans, it certainly is incentivized thereby. The more time people anticipate having ahead of them, the more likely they are to personally witness the consequences of their actions. This raises the importance of acting virtuously, in such a way as to bring about the best consequences for oneself and others, as failure to do so is increasingly likely to backfire over time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To SocraticGadfly:</p>
<p>Regarding your points #1, 2, and 3, suicide rates in the US, while they are indeed slightly higher than rates of automobile fatalities, have also been in modest decline since 1950. The following chart shows statistics for selected years between 1950 and 2005:<br />
<a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779940.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779940.html</a>. As another example, in Japan, absolute numbers of suicides have recently declined below 30,000 for the first time in 15 years: <a href="http://www.halojepang.com/todays-japan/6433-suicides" rel="nofollow">http://www.halojepang.com/todays-japan/6433-suicides</a></p>
<p>Thus, the beneficent trend of greater self-preservation I described can be said to apply even to reduce the prevalence of people choosing to take their own lives. </p>
<p>Regarding your point #4, my video “Eliminating Death – Part 10 – The Immortal Wealthy Elite Argument” – <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfPUtUha_ck" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfPUtUha_ck</a>- addresses part of your concern. My remaining response is that, while moral advancement is not guaranteed by longer lifespans, it certainly is incentivized thereby. The more time people anticipate having ahead of them, the more likely they are to personally witness the consequences of their actions. This raises the importance of acting virtuously, in such a way as to bring about the best consequences for oneself and others, as failure to do so is increasingly likely to backfire over time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Benefits of a Non-Religious Upbringing: A Firsthand Account &#8211; Article by G. Stolyarov II by Robert W. Franson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert W. Franson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent -- and well-presented!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent &#8212; and well-presented!</p>
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